{"id":34831,"date":"2022-06-01T21:29:54","date_gmt":"2022-06-02T01:29:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/?p=34831"},"modified":"2022-06-01T21:29:54","modified_gmt":"2022-06-02T01:29:54","slug":"burned-turbos-more","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/2022\/06\/performance-zone\/burned-turbos-more\/","title":{"rendered":"Burned Turbos &#038; More!"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ01.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ01-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-34833\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ01-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ01-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ01-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ01-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ01.jpg 1050w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><p>Burned turbochargers are a good reason to have a working pyrometer, with the thermocouple in the exhaust manifold, and a turbo boost gauge.&nbsp; It\u2019s also very important that you know what the readings mean.&nbsp; On April 28th, I returned a phone call to a gentleman that had sent us a turbocharger off of a 12.7 DD4 Detroit looking for a warranty.&nbsp; The failure was a burned turbine housing and .025 end play on the wheel and shaft, when there should be no more than .012 end play.<\/p><p>My first question to the owner was, \u201cDo you have a pyrometer (EGT) gauge?\u201d&nbsp; He replied, \u201cNo, but my truck doesn\u2019t run hot.\u201d&nbsp; I then asked, \u201cHow do you know?&nbsp; It is impossible to know the exhaust gas temperature on these older engines without a pyrometer.\u201d&nbsp; He did say the engine produced 25 to 27 psi of boost, which should be 30 psi for a 500 Detroit 12.7 liter, but at least he had a turbo boost gauge!<\/p><div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ02.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"284\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ02-300x284.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-34834\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ02-300x284.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ02-600x568.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ02-1024x969.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ02-768x727.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ02.jpg 1050w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><p>Now, here is where the problem lies \u2013 the rear gears in this truck were 2.91, turning 24.5 tall rubber, and the truck was equipped with a double over 13-speed transmission.&nbsp; He drives this truck, a 2003 Freightliner Columbia with a single air filter under the hood, at 70 mph at 1,200 rpm.&nbsp; The DD3 and 4 12.7-liter Detroits need to be run at 1,400 rpm and higher, especially at 70 miles per hour.&nbsp; Running this low rpm will produce excessive exhaust gas temperature, which is what fried the center section of the turbine housing.<\/p><p>This truck also had an air filter restriction which caused the thrust washer to wear out, giving the wheel and shaft .025 end play.&nbsp; With that much end play, the compressor wheel, on the fresh air side, had hit the compressor housing.&nbsp; The air filter could be dirty or could have gotten wet from driving through a downpour.&nbsp; If the air filter is paper and gets wet, it must be replaced very soon.&nbsp; A wet air filter will cause excessive wear on the thrust washer and pull oil past the seal and into the charge air cooler.<\/p><div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ03.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ03-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-34835\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ03-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ03-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ03-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ03-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ03.jpg 1050w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><p>As you can see in the pictures, the turbine housing has been burned from excessive heat and end play.&nbsp; There is no warranty on this turbo, but I can save it by installing a bearing and seal kit, along with a new or used turbine housing.&nbsp; Excessive soot and carbon cause the variable vanes in a VGT turbo to lock up, rendering it useless.<\/p><p>In other photos here, a turbocharger off of an International 530 engine is pictured.&nbsp; The rust on the outside of this turbo shows that the truck sat in the grass for an extended period of time.&nbsp; Soil and grass hold moisture and will cause excessive rust.&nbsp; If the truck owner had been running our Max Mileage Fuel Borne Catalyst in his fuel, the truck would still be up and running.&nbsp; Now, he needs to spend $2,900 on a new turbocharger.&nbsp; As we say, it costs 1 cent per mile to run the catalyst, but it will save 6 cents per mile in maintenance.<\/p><div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ04.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ04-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-34836\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ04-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ04-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ04-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ04-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/JunePZ04.jpg 1050w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><p>We work on all sorts of engine components at our shop here in Saxonburg, PA \u2013 not just turbochargers.&nbsp; Stop by and visit us today or check us out online (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.pittsburgpower.com\">www.pittsburgpower.com<\/a>) 24\/7 to see all our products and services.&nbsp; We are here to serve owner operators looking for more performance and efficiency out of their diesel truck.&nbsp; Call us at (724) 360-4080 to learn more about what we do and why.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Burned turbochargers are a good reason to have a working pyrometer, with the thermocouple in the exhaust manifold, and a turbo boost gauge.&nbsp; It\u2019s also very important that you know what the readings mean.&nbsp; On April 28th, I returned a phone call to a gentleman that had sent us a turbocharger off of a 12.7<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":34837,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-34831","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-performance-zone"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34831","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/9"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=34831"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34831\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":34885,"href":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34831\/revisions\/34885"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/34837"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=34831"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=34831"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=34831"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}