{"id":1523,"date":"2011-12-01T09:51:12","date_gmt":"2011-12-01T14:51:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/?p=1523"},"modified":"2012-01-02T19:22:30","modified_gmt":"2012-01-03T00:22:30","slug":"atl-december-2011","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tenfourmagazine.com\/content\/2011\/12\/ask-the-law\/atl-december-2011\/","title":{"rendered":"ATL December 2011"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Several Questions About Out-of-Service Orders &amp; Logbook<br \/>\nIssues Answered by Law Enforcement Officials (as of December 2011)<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Warning: Laws are subject to change without notice.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"> These interpretations were made on November 14, 2011.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4>Brought to you as a public service by Ol\u2019 Blue, USA and 10-4.<br \/>\nSubmit your questions to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.askthelaw.org\" target=\"_blank\">www.askthelaw.org<\/a><\/h4>\n<p><strong>OUT-OF-SERVICE FOR INCOMPLETE LOG<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q:<\/strong> I was recently given a full vehicle inspection by a trooper at a weigh station. My logbook was filled out but the lines on the graph were not completed each day, according to the trooper. I thought I was doing it correctly. I was 90 minutes away from home when the trooper placed me Out-of-Service for ten hours, even though I proved I was only on the road that day for 3-1\/2 hours. What is the law? \u2013 Jim in Michigan<\/p>\n<p><strong>A:<\/strong><strong> Provided by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.olblueusa.org\/askthelaw\/TrooperDial.html\" target=\"_blank\">Senior Trooper Monty Dial (Ret.)<\/a>, Texas Highway Patrol, Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Division, Garland, TX:<\/strong> In Part 395.8(a) it states that a Record of Duty Status (logbook) must be completed for each 24 hours. If a driver fails to complete their logbook each day, then the driver is in violation and subject to a citation and\/or being placed Out-of-Service.<\/p>\n<p><strong>VIOLATING AN OUT-OF-SERVICE ORDER<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q:<\/strong> True or false \u2013 fines for violating an Out-of-Service order range from $2,500 to $5,000 for drivers and $2,750 to $25,000 for motor carriers? Thanks \u2013 James in Illinois<\/p>\n<p><strong>A:<\/strong><strong> Provided by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.olblueusa.org\/askthelaw\/SgtPeteCamm.html\" target=\"_blank\">Sgt. Pete Camm (Ret.)<\/a>, California Highway Patrol, Sacramento, CA:<\/strong> Mostly true. The civil penalty for a driver who violates an Out-of-Service order cannot be less than $2,500. But, if the driver gets a second conviction, the penalty cannot be less than $5,000. On top of those amounts, depending upon the state in which a conviction is made, there could also be additional fines, including court fees (even if the case never sets foot inside a courtroom). Subpart D \u2013 \u201cDriver Disqualifications and Penalties\u201d says: \u201c383.53 Penalties. (b) Special penalties pertaining to violation of Out-of-Service orders \u2013 (1) Driver violations. A driver who is convicted of violating an Out-of-Service order shall be subject to a civil penalty of not less than $2,500 for a first conviction and not less than $5,000 for a second or subsequent conviction, in addition to disqualification under 383.51(e). (2) Employer violations. An employer who is convicted of a violation of 383.37(c) shall be subject to a civil penalty of not less than $2,750 nor more than $25,000.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>PROPERLY SECURING A SPARE TIRE<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q:<\/strong> What is the proper tie down requirements for carrying a spare tire on our truck? California has stopped several of our trucks stating that rope, rubber straps and 2-inch straps are not proper. We are being put Out-of-Service for this and it\u2019s killing our safety rating. Please help. Thanks \u2013 Monty in Ohio<\/p>\n<p><strong>A:<\/strong><strong> Provided by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.olblueusa.org\/askthelaw\/officer_nunez.html\" target=\"_blank\">Officer Jaime Nunez<\/a>, California Highway Patrol, Commercial Vehicle Section, Sacramento, CA:<\/strong> In California, your spare tire must be secured to prevent the tire from coming loose and you cannot carry it on your tractor unless it\u2019s in a carrier or space designed to carry tires. Pursuant to Title 13, California Code of Regulations (13 CCR), Section 1244(b), externally-mounted spare tires are required to \u201c&#8230;be contained and supported by tire carriers or other means specifically designed for the purpose and secured to prevent accidental release of the tires.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>PENALTIES FOR NOT HAVING A LOGBOOK<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q:<\/strong> How often does a logbook need to be updated? Are there penalties if a driver is stopped and doesn\u2019t have one? \u2013 Terry in New York<\/p>\n<p><strong>A:<\/strong><strong> Provided by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.olblueusa.org\/askthelaw\/SergeantBrokaw.html\" target=\"_blank\">Jim Brokaw<\/a>, formerly a Staff Sergeant, Nebraska State Patrol, Carrier Enforcement Division, Lincoln, NE:<\/strong> 49CFR395.8(f)(1) states: \u201cDrivers shall keep their record of duty status current to the time shown for the last change of duty status.\u201d 49CFR395.13 requires a driver failing to maintain a record of duty to be declared Out-of-Service. In addition to the Out-of-Service order, civil penalties may also be imposed by the FMCSA. You\u2019ll probably also receive a ticket with fines being assessed by the state having jurisdiction. Typically, you don\u2019t loose your CDL for not having a logbook, but if you violate the Out-of-Service order for not having a logbook and are convicted of the charge, your CDL will be disqualified. Additional fines and civil penalties can be assessed in addition to the disqualification. The federal safety regulations place the responsibility for compliance equally on the driver and the motor carrier.<\/p>\n<p><em>~ The Ask The Law\u2122 programs are an ongoing educational effort between Ol\u2019 Blue, USA\u2122 and commercial law enforcement agencies. Ol\u2019 Blue, USA is a non-profit organization dedicated to highway safety education and to improving relations between the motoring public, law enforcement and commercial drivers. \u201cAsk The Law\u201d is a registered trademark of Ol\u2019 Blue, USA. This column is copyrighted\u00a9 by Ol\u2019 Blue, USA. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Warning: Laws are subject to change without notice. These interpretations were made on November 14, 2011.<\/strong><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Several Questions About Out-of-Service Orders &amp; Logbook Issues Answered by Law Enforcement Officials (as of December 2011) Warning: Laws are subject to change without notice. These interpretations were made on November 14, 2011. Brought to you as a public service by Ol\u2019 Blue, USA and 10-4. 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